Tinaa 1 Posted 9 September, 2025 For those of you who have the digital capability to collate VTE risk assessment compliance from all patients admitted aged 16 and over, do you include chemotherapy patients? I am having a lot of challenges with the inclusion of this patient cohort Nice is quite clear and states: Admission in the context of this guideline refers to admission as an inpatient, where a bed is provided for 1 or more nights, or admission as a day patient, where a bed is provided for a procedure including surgery or chemotherapy but not for an overnight stay. 0 reactions so far Joanne Webb 2 Posted 17 September, 2025 We stipulate they should have a VTE risk assessment within 24 hours of admission, we don't use the 14 hours as we didn't think it feasible to achieve. This may change now NICE have introduced their tweaks to the guidance which puts us under more pressure to achieve the 14 hour target and the 12 hour target for patients in ED. I think we are outliers still using the 24 target for VTE risk assessment. 1 reactions so far Alexandra Butler 71 Posted 31 October, 2025 Hi Tinaa we state that chemotherapy patients are cohorted and we do not risk assess them 1 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 they are in a cohort at NBT - admitted and discharged from same place and deemed low risk of VTE - in the same way we cohort dialysis patients. not saying that they won't get a DVT , but that coming in for the chemo is low risk 1 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 Thank you everyone, we currently do not have a derogation policy in place for cohorts - does anyone have a policy for cohorts they could share with me please? 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 We do not have a policy for cohorts but follow the NHSE guidance - Ill try and find it again and sent to you Basically - all patient who come to hospital seemed to be 'admitted' - even if not going to a bed and just having a dressing change for example, Our cohorts are in general - applicable to places -eg daycase small plastics ops (MOHS), SDEC. ED (unless >12 hours) Now that we have electronic prescribing as a forcing measure everywhere, except those areas mentioned (and perhaps some other areas that can be identified on CMM- electronic prexcribing platform) practically all patients need a VTE RA before any drug can be prescribed - including anaesthetic drugs I hope that that helps - having cohorts has really help with VTE RA compliance 0 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 As NICE NG89 includes day case and chemo as definition of an admission, I ideally want it covered for external reporting and data collection. We dont currently cohort 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2 Go to topic listing × Existing user? Sign In Sign Up Learn Share Communities News Donate About Us Back Patient Safety Learning and the hub Become a member Patient safety networks Recent blogs Topic leaders How to share content Guide to writing a blog Moderation of content Acceptable use policy How the hub is being used FAQs for using the hub User feedback survey Contact us £ Donate My Hub Back All content All learn All community All news × Create New... Important Information We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Accept Cookies Reject Cookies
Joanne Webb 2 Posted 17 September, 2025 We stipulate they should have a VTE risk assessment within 24 hours of admission, we don't use the 14 hours as we didn't think it feasible to achieve. This may change now NICE have introduced their tweaks to the guidance which puts us under more pressure to achieve the 14 hour target and the 12 hour target for patients in ED. I think we are outliers still using the 24 target for VTE risk assessment. 1 reactions so far Alexandra Butler 71 Posted 31 October, 2025 Hi Tinaa we state that chemotherapy patients are cohorted and we do not risk assess them 1 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 they are in a cohort at NBT - admitted and discharged from same place and deemed low risk of VTE - in the same way we cohort dialysis patients. not saying that they won't get a DVT , but that coming in for the chemo is low risk 1 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 Thank you everyone, we currently do not have a derogation policy in place for cohorts - does anyone have a policy for cohorts they could share with me please? 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 We do not have a policy for cohorts but follow the NHSE guidance - Ill try and find it again and sent to you Basically - all patient who come to hospital seemed to be 'admitted' - even if not going to a bed and just having a dressing change for example, Our cohorts are in general - applicable to places -eg daycase small plastics ops (MOHS), SDEC. ED (unless >12 hours) Now that we have electronic prescribing as a forcing measure everywhere, except those areas mentioned (and perhaps some other areas that can be identified on CMM- electronic prexcribing platform) practically all patients need a VTE RA before any drug can be prescribed - including anaesthetic drugs I hope that that helps - having cohorts has really help with VTE RA compliance 0 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 As NICE NG89 includes day case and chemo as definition of an admission, I ideally want it covered for external reporting and data collection. We dont currently cohort 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2 Go to topic listing × Existing user? Sign In Sign Up Learn Share Communities News Donate About Us Back Patient Safety Learning and the hub Become a member Patient safety networks Recent blogs Topic leaders How to share content Guide to writing a blog Moderation of content Acceptable use policy How the hub is being used FAQs for using the hub User feedback survey Contact us £ Donate My Hub Back All content All learn All community All news × Create New... Important Information We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Accept Cookies Reject Cookies
Alexandra Butler 71 Posted 31 October, 2025 Hi Tinaa we state that chemotherapy patients are cohorted and we do not risk assess them 1 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 they are in a cohort at NBT - admitted and discharged from same place and deemed low risk of VTE - in the same way we cohort dialysis patients. not saying that they won't get a DVT , but that coming in for the chemo is low risk 1 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 Thank you everyone, we currently do not have a derogation policy in place for cohorts - does anyone have a policy for cohorts they could share with me please? 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 We do not have a policy for cohorts but follow the NHSE guidance - Ill try and find it again and sent to you Basically - all patient who come to hospital seemed to be 'admitted' - even if not going to a bed and just having a dressing change for example, Our cohorts are in general - applicable to places -eg daycase small plastics ops (MOHS), SDEC. ED (unless >12 hours) Now that we have electronic prescribing as a forcing measure everywhere, except those areas mentioned (and perhaps some other areas that can be identified on CMM- electronic prexcribing platform) practically all patients need a VTE RA before any drug can be prescribed - including anaesthetic drugs I hope that that helps - having cohorts has really help with VTE RA compliance 0 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 As NICE NG89 includes day case and chemo as definition of an admission, I ideally want it covered for external reporting and data collection. We dont currently cohort 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2 Go to topic listing
sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 they are in a cohort at NBT - admitted and discharged from same place and deemed low risk of VTE - in the same way we cohort dialysis patients. not saying that they won't get a DVT , but that coming in for the chemo is low risk 1 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 Thank you everyone, we currently do not have a derogation policy in place for cohorts - does anyone have a policy for cohorts they could share with me please? 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 We do not have a policy for cohorts but follow the NHSE guidance - Ill try and find it again and sent to you Basically - all patient who come to hospital seemed to be 'admitted' - even if not going to a bed and just having a dressing change for example, Our cohorts are in general - applicable to places -eg daycase small plastics ops (MOHS), SDEC. ED (unless >12 hours) Now that we have electronic prescribing as a forcing measure everywhere, except those areas mentioned (and perhaps some other areas that can be identified on CMM- electronic prexcribing platform) practically all patients need a VTE RA before any drug can be prescribed - including anaesthetic drugs I hope that that helps - having cohorts has really help with VTE RA compliance 0 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 As NICE NG89 includes day case and chemo as definition of an admission, I ideally want it covered for external reporting and data collection. We dont currently cohort 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2 Go to topic listing
Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 Thank you everyone, we currently do not have a derogation policy in place for cohorts - does anyone have a policy for cohorts they could share with me please? 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 We do not have a policy for cohorts but follow the NHSE guidance - Ill try and find it again and sent to you Basically - all patient who come to hospital seemed to be 'admitted' - even if not going to a bed and just having a dressing change for example, Our cohorts are in general - applicable to places -eg daycase small plastics ops (MOHS), SDEC. ED (unless >12 hours) Now that we have electronic prescribing as a forcing measure everywhere, except those areas mentioned (and perhaps some other areas that can be identified on CMM- electronic prexcribing platform) practically all patients need a VTE RA before any drug can be prescribed - including anaesthetic drugs I hope that that helps - having cohorts has really help with VTE RA compliance 0 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 As NICE NG89 includes day case and chemo as definition of an admission, I ideally want it covered for external reporting and data collection. We dont currently cohort 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2 Go to topic listing
sue bacon 25 Posted 12 November, 2025 We do not have a policy for cohorts but follow the NHSE guidance - Ill try and find it again and sent to you Basically - all patient who come to hospital seemed to be 'admitted' - even if not going to a bed and just having a dressing change for example, Our cohorts are in general - applicable to places -eg daycase small plastics ops (MOHS), SDEC. ED (unless >12 hours) Now that we have electronic prescribing as a forcing measure everywhere, except those areas mentioned (and perhaps some other areas that can be identified on CMM- electronic prexcribing platform) practically all patients need a VTE RA before any drug can be prescribed - including anaesthetic drugs I hope that that helps - having cohorts has really help with VTE RA compliance 0 reactions so far Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 As NICE NG89 includes day case and chemo as definition of an admission, I ideally want it covered for external reporting and data collection. We dont currently cohort 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2 Go to topic listing
Tinaa 1 Posted 12 November, 2025 As NICE NG89 includes day case and chemo as definition of an admission, I ideally want it covered for external reporting and data collection. We dont currently cohort 0 reactions so far sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2 Go to topic listing
sue bacon 25 Posted 13 November, 2025 Venous Thromboembolism (VTE) Risk Assessment Data Collection guidance - NHS England Digital There is information in the data collection guidance for cohorts - you might find this useful Tinaa - good lick 0 reactions so far Create an account or sign in to comment You need to be a member in order to leave a comment Create an account Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy! Register a new account Sign in Already have an account? Sign in here. Sign In Now Share https://www.pslhub.org/forums/topic/2160-digital-data-collection-of-vte-risk-assessment/ Followers 2
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